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The TH 6.5 II Sax was born from a blank sheet with the aim of overcoming all the limits dictated by compromise-oriented design choices. This philosophy allowed us to obtain extreme performance and a design projected into the future, faithful to the inspiring principle of maximum transparency of the musical message. 

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The magnetic circuit uses a N48 “H-grade” Neodymium magnet that releases a very high quantity of energy and is ultra stable in temperature, ensuring an unparalleled dynamic.  The geometry of the magnetic group has been optimized through a finite element simulation software to maximize efficiency by concentrating the magnetic field in the gap.  A great deal of research has been carried out to reduce the modulation of the voice coil inductance by magnetically saturating the motor pole and using an aluminium short-circuit ring that also allows a greater extension towards the mid frequencies.

TOTAL ABSENCE OF MECHANICAL COMPRESSION

The development of the suspension system, a crucial element for each transducer, required a long research work: the development team created computational models to simulate every aspect of the multi-physical behavior of the loudspeaker.  The spider was designed thanks to a long series of mechanical simulations performed to define its structure: a large elastic surface with 5 waves, ensuring an improved distribution of the elastic force ; waves profile and gluing optimized to obtain the best symmetry in the voice coil and basket connection areas ; spider composition made of a mix of two fibers to achieve the best elastic linearity , without mechanical compression effects even at high excursion levels.

Like the spider, the surround was also designed using mechanical simulations. The result is guaranteed by: use of natural rubber IIR; profile optimized to ensure wide excursion; maximization of linear elastic behavior without mechanical compression effects.

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The 50 mm mobile coil in CCAR (Copper Clad Aluminum Ribbon) , wound with flat wire to obtain a very compact winding, maximizes the force factor and at the same time allows for optimal heat dissipation.

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The mechanical structure of the TH 6.5 II is a perfect combination of design and performance. The aluminium alloy basket incorporates all the components ensuring high precision in the various couplings. The structure featuring four pairs of spokes allows for solidity and damping of the vibrations offering very low resistance to the cone air flow. The wide spider distributes the elastic load optimally. A generously sized hole, protected by a filter cloth, prevents air compression phenomena under the spider, eliminating deleterious resonance at medium frequencies.  The central opening in the bottom-plate ensures optimal decompression of the air column inside the voice coil and the output expanded material diffuses the turbulences and protects it from ingoing foreign bodies.

  • 30,5 mm mobile voice coil in CCAR (Copper Clad Aluminum Ribbon) wound with flat wire to maximize the force factor and heat dissipation.
  • Aluminium demodulation ring which linearizes the high excursion intermodulation distortion, canceling any sound colorations.
  • N38 "H-grade neodymium magnet included in the voice coil to obtain superior control of the mobile crew and superior thermal stability.
  • Motor geometry designed using finite element simulation software to optimize efficiency by concentrating the magnetic field in the gap.
  • Membrane made of TPX ® , a transparent material that reduces frequency response irregularities and provides a view of the inside of the speaker.
  • Membrane geometry designed by simulation software to obtain homogeneous directivity.
  • Optimized cone/surround break-up with extensive simulations to linearize the response at medium frequencies.
  • Basket made of a single piece of die-cast aluminium with four pairs of spokes for maximum rigidity without slowing down the air flow.
  • Suspension and spider with very high excursion, optimized with simulations of the multi-physical behavior of the speaker.
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  • Power Handling: 150W Continuous Power
  • Power Handling: 300W Peak Power
  • Impedance: 4 Ohms
  • Sensitivity: 87 dB/Spl
  • Magnet: N48 “H-grade” Neodymium

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Audison TH 6.5 II Sax Thesis Series 6.6" (165mm) 4Ω Woofers with Grilles (Pair) The TH 6.5 II Sax was born from a blank sheet with the aim of overcoming all the limits dictated by compromise-oriented design choices. This philosophy allowed us to obtain extreme performance and a design projected into the future, faithful to the inspiring principle of maximum transparency of the musical message. The magnetic circuit uses a N48 “H-grade” Neodymium magnet that releases a very high quantity of energy and is ultra stable in temperature, ensuring an unparalleled dynamic. The geometry of the magnetic group has been optimized through a finite element simulation software to maximize efficiency by concentrating the magnetic field in the gap. A great deal of research has been carried out to reduce the modulation of the voice coil inductance by magnetically saturating the motor pole and using an aluminium short-circuit ring that also allows a greater extension towards the mid frequencies. Features - 50 mm mobile voice coil in CCAR (Copper Clad Aluminum Ribbon) wound with flat wire to maximize the force factor and heat dissipation. Low inductance of the mobile voice coil to optimize the emission in medium-high band (2-3 kHz). N48 “H-grade” neodymium magnet with superb thermal stability to guarantee an optimal dynamic reserve in every situation. Magnetic group geometry designed using finite element simulation software to maximize efficiency by concentrating the magnetic field in the gap. Membrane made of TPX, a transparent material that reduces the frequency response irregularities in the mid-high band, leaving the speaker interior in full view. Membrane geometry designed using simulation software, to obtain a smooth emission over all the listening angles. Basket made of a single piece of die-cast aluminium featuring four pairs of spokes to optimize heat transfer, nullify turbulent airflows and ensure maximum structural rigidity.

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  • Thread starter ten_ton_bass
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90accordman

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  • Feb 29, 2012

My local dealer/installer is all about Audison/ Hertz. And I am well aware of their quality. When I upgrade my full range sometime in the future I am sure he will try to push it on me. It seems even Audison's entry level products are still quite pricey. Just wondering if it is really worth the money. I just bought the Audison Bit Ten DSP from him but have not had it installed yet, waiting for my subs and box to arrive. Click to read more...  

whitedragon551

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Depends on what your comparing to.  

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Depends on what equipment you're looking at as well. You also have to consider that Hertz is mostly only sold through local dealers and is usually a lot more expensive than online shopping. But, I personally don't feel their comps are worth the price except for the Mille. Their subs are decent, but I wouldnt buy one new. As far as their amps, unless I find a good deal on one, I'll never own one. Just cant justify the price on their stuff. Pretty nice stuff just pricey. Same way I see JL Audio,very nice stuff but, only things, off the top of my head, that I could see myself buying new (online prices) are the C2 Comps and the w6v2 subs.  

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I believe it comes down to personal preference. If your goal is to run a gazillion watts to a couple of 18's to make some noise, Audison is probably not for you. If you are looking for good SQ for a front stage consisting of quality drivers, then its probably worth a look. I have personally never owned one. However, if I were in that market, I would look at the overall package. Talk to some that have owned them. How did they like them? How was their service? What's their longevity like? The amplifier brand that I'm partial to has great SQ, awesome service, and exceptional longevity. I'm always willing to pay more for the entire package. Hope this helps. Good Luck.  

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I doubt you would be able to here the difference between audison and speakers and some that are cheaper  

CHEMMINS

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For the average guy, Audison is not for them. It would be a waste of money. You would be better served putting the extra money into a great install, and lesser gear. You can have a million dollar system, in a $20 install and sound like crap, or you can have $20 equipment in a great install and sound like gold.  

90accordman

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having owned LOTSX of different speaker sets. i'll take my MLK 3 set over pretty much any of the internet brands //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif and the HSKxl setup i would take those as well over all the internet brands Amps, ypu the same story, i prefer a nice quality amplifier thats based on a sound engineers design rather then an amp that some guy got in a catalog picked parts ordered 100 started a preorder because he never had the money in the first place to order the amps and then sell them as some facinating amp. I'm not picking on one company thats just pretty much a cookie cutter of the majority of the popular internet amps out there.  

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Yeah... it seems these type of drivers were not that popular... Any rate I bought them and tried them out... personally I felt the scans 10F sounded better I didn’t really like them tbh.. others may have had other experiences and opinions Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk  

They make great stuff so I would expect great results... but yea not many people use them  

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The klippel test on theme looked pretty bad there on here check it out low xmax even for a midrange  

Elektra said: Hi Guys Has anyone used these mids? And how would you rate them compared to other mids There isn't much in the way of Internet reviews so if you guys have heard them or owned them I would love to hear from you.. Cheers View attachment 144314 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Click to expand...

Size does matter in a car when u want to cross the midrange be for beaming so u have an even power response sure a 4in can play to 8k but the off axis response will start to fall around 3k making things a lot more difficult it's all a trade off big mid needs big tweeter small mid small tweeter but I still stand by my statement for the money not worth it scan 10f much better polar response and all around performer  

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My opinion is from my one experience with several different tunes and demo’s in the above car.. Absolutely musical and capable little mids. They are astonishingly nice. The thesis speaker line are the single line of products I’d ever be interested in from Audison. If you pinned me down and said I have to pick an Audison product, gimme these thesis drivers and thanks. That said, I wonder about the Voce or the similar highest line of Hertz branded drivers. Mille’s I’ve heard before were nice also, but I give the nod to thesis. But I will add a caveat. On the last iteration of the above BRZ, the guys decided to make some use of what these mids can do up top, and extended their low pass up a bit. In this car, the result of that and many other changes, was astonishing and all drivers disappeared more than I’ve heard before. Point being, the tune, in the end, is critical. With these drivers though, you can know that the real challenge will be bettering the tune well before you tap out what these drivers can do. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro  

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Like babs....I have to vouch for the capability of these lil audisons in bertholomey's car. I've been in the brz for many a demo, and can honestly say they are a very, very capable midrange driver.....better than this or that, who's to say, everyone has an opinion.....I just know when tuned well, they can flat sing....  

I tried both in the same setup the 10F had a much clearer and defined midrange compared to bland sounding Thesis speakers The difference was huge... For me Audison make better amps than speakers... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk  

Like I said in the above quoted post, everyone has an opinion, and you have obviously formed yours. I have no desire to change yours, and you don't have the capability to change mine, just want anyone reading this to know, yes this driver can play rather exceptionally when tuned well, better than the 10f......once again, who's to say, I've heard that driver sing as well as sound like warmed over ****, depending on the talent of the tuner....your opinion on a direct comparison is yours to make, just know the capability is there......  

True - at the end of the day I don’t have the drivers anymore and probably won’t buy them again in the near future... FWIW - I think these speakers sound better when working together with the same tweeter... Regarding talent - there isn’t much talent required to test and listen with a 12db slope and crossing them correctly with correct level matching and using the same settings for the 10F side by side the 10F did sound better to me. Other opinions may vary... that’s just my 2c from previous ownership.. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk  

Actually had planned a 10F D3004 setup but opted for frogs due to space. The flange on the 10F and couldn’t decide on a grill solution, but sonically yeah the 10F is a darling and favorite among a lot of folks. Speakers are as subjective as dinner choices: barbecue vs Tex-Mex. luckily what choices we have now though. Yay! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro  

Personal preference and tastes play a huge part in this hobby, fo sho. While I argued that the thesis is a capable driver, of course the 10f is a well designed piece too. I would never voice to you that your opinion is wrong, or mislead, in your preference of the scan. While in today's world of powerful processing, we typically look for drivers that perform within their designed parameters well, with the final "voicing" eq'd to our liking....that being said, there can still be certain "traits" derived from the drivers design that appeal to us, and can linger after tuning, to cause us to prefer a certain design. So no one's opinion is wrong on preference, I just know the audison can hold its own from a performance perspective.  

I own both the thesis and the 10f... Not to plug my thesis that I currently have for sale but its really simple... The 10f is a very detailed full range driver but the thesis is a true midrange driver... I could not cross my 10f lower than maybe 400 or 350 without a lott of breakup... But I could cross it as high as 6k to 10k... The thesis on the other hand I could cross it as low is 250 but on the upper midrange no higher than 5k to 6k... Soooo what's the big deal.... lower vocals... Realism... Warmth... From a 3 inch mid... That's hard to come by honestly... I would compare the thesis to the scan 12m just smaller... Just depends on what you are looking for... If you want lower vocals on the dash... Then the thesis is gets the job done...  

That’s quite strange... the FS of the 10F is 96hz and the Thesis is in the 190’s If you practice logic the 10f should play at 250hz a lot better than the Thesis would? My brother used the 10f and was crossing them a 250hz but I think he played around the 250-400hz same as the Thesis when testing I found the Thesis to be boring - in comparison the 10f was lively and had a sparkle to it couple it with the right tweeter and it would make for a interesting set.. Thesis gets the job done like most midranges do whether it’s worth the price when compared something like a Scan I would think I would look around for other options before I drop cash into something like that. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk  

Most systems that I have heard that have either the 10f or small 3 inch mid are lacking in the 400 to 250Hz range... The thesis fill this range quite nicely with good output...  

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How does the 2 way Thesis set sound? I'm a sucker for pleated surrounds  

I think you bring up a good point. Apparently Audison has dropped the 3" mid range moving forward - maybe for the reasons Electra stated, or that a few of the higher end brands appear to be marketing 2-way sets with a tweeter that can play lower and a mid bass that can reach a little higher. I recently updated the Violino tweeters from V1 to V2, and I liked the difference - not just with aesthetics. I'm not going to update to the new Sax mid bass driver, but it would be interesting to see / hear the difference from V1.  

Don't get crazyyy... They need a midbass to anchor them...  

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