Persona 5 Royal Strength Confidant Fusion Solutions guide

The  Persona 5 Royal Strength Confidant  is unique compared to the others in the game, requiring you to solve  Persona Fusion puzzles  in order to rank up the confidant cooperation with the Twin Wardens Caroline & Justine , the jailers in Persona 5's unique prison-themed take on the Velvet Room.

Instead of hanging out and chatting casually, you'll instead be fusing or catching Persona with specific abilities to order  to rank up. It's important to do this, since as the Strength confidant grows, you'll unlock additional functions of the Velvet Room, which can lead to having better Persona in combat. You'll also, of course, get to know the duo a little bettter.

This guide features all of the  fusion puzzle solutions  for the Strength confidant - for both versions of the game.

The Persona 5 Royal Strength confidant requires the player to fuse various Persona in what are essentially small puzzles. We have the solutions.

Strength Confidant Fusion Solutions: Fusing Puzzle Answers for the Twin Wardens Caroline & Justine

The manner in which you level up the Strength Confident link with Caroline and Justine is quite different to every other confidant cooperation in the game - you can't even give your jailers gifts. This is the only way to level up, which unless you're a fusion nerd can be a pain.

That's where this guide comes in - no fusion calculator required, as we feature the raw  solutions for every rank of the Strength confidant , taking the guesswork out of matters. The solutiomns on this page cover both the original version of the game and Persona 5 Royal, as the two versions have slightly different requirements and solutions. But this here is definitive. 

Caroline and Justine are available any time of the day or night at any time in Persona 5, so long as you can make your way to the Velvet Room. To access them, just head there via one of the magical doors that are available in Shibuya, Shinjuku, Kichijoji, or Akihabara. At certain points in the game you briefly can't access the Velvet Room - and these are pretty much the only points this confidant relationship is unavailable.

If you enjoy this and want help making the right dialogue choices in the other confidant relationships, hit up our Persona 5 Royal confidant choices guide for help with every other relationship in the game. If you just want puzzles solved, we likewise have guides with the School and Exam Answers , and all of the Crossword Puzzle solutions .

The Twin Wardens Strength confidant requires solving small mini-puzzles to progress.

Without further ado, here's a full list of fusion solutions, divided by rank. These are by no means exhaustive - but these are the ways  we  completed the riddles the twins laid out for us to advance their confidant cooperation. 

  • Jack Frost with Mabufu
  • Ame no Uzume with Frei / Shiissa with Frei (P5)
  • Flauros with Tarukaja / Matador with Magaru (P5)
  • Phoenix with Counter / Flauros with Tarukaja (P5)
  • Setanta with Rakukaja / Ame-no-Uzume with Dodge Psy (P5)
  • Neko Shogun with Dekaja
  • Lachesis with Tetraja
  • Hecatoncheires with Masukunda
  • Bugs with Samarecarm
  • Seth with High Counter

Rank 1: Jack Frost with Mabufu

Here's a few ways to get a Jack Frost with Mabufu in order to achieve Rank 1 of the Strength confidant in both games: 

  • Unlocked automatically on 5/18.
  • Jack Frost learns Mabufu at level 12. Jack Frost is a Magician Arcana Persona, and so with the story-driven progression of the Morgana Magician cooperation you'll be able to get enough bonus experience to boost Jack Frost up to level 12 from very early on in the game.
  • In order to fuse Jack Frost, fuse Berith (Hierophant) with Apsaras (Priestess).
  • You can also fuse Mokoi (Death) with Apsaras (Priestess) for the same result. 
  • In Persona 5 Royal , you can also fuse Silky (Priestess) with Berith.
  • These Persona are available in the first palace and in early areas of mementos.
  • Unlocks the  Group Guillotine , a new fusing method that lets you fuse three Persona at once.

Rank 2: Ame no Uzume with Frei (P5R) or Shiissa with Frei (P5)

The same move is required here on both occasions - Frei. This is an easy enough move to acquire, so you shouldn't need to spend a skill card. You can inherit it from other Persona easily enough.

  • To get a Shiissa with Frei you'll need to fuse Jack Frost (Magician) with Makami (Temperance). Makami will have Frei, and so you can choose for the resulting Shiissa to inherit the skill.
  • Can get Suzaku by fusing Berith and Hua Po
  • Alternatively, fuse Cait Sith (Magician) with Succubus (Moon) and use a Frei Skill Card on the resulting Persona.

Rank 3: Flauros with Tarukaja (P5R) or Matador with Magaru (P5)

Adjusted for Persona 5 Royal, you'll need to fuse a Flauros with a Tarukaja for the Strength Confidant's first rank. Alternatively, in vanilla Persona 5, you'll need to craft a Matador with Magaru. 

  • The quickest and easiest way to get a Matador with Magaru is to use a treasure Persona, Regent. Once you've found one of these once you can recall them from the compendium, but they're expensive. Combine Mokoi (Death) with a Regent to create a Matador - pick up Magaru as the inherited skill from the skill-loaded Regent.
  • You could also achieve this persona by fusing Nekomata (Magician) with Obariyon (Fool) and inherit Magaru.
  • To get Flauros with Tarukaja, fuse a Berith (Hierophant), Orobas (Hierophant) and Eligor (Emperor).
  • You'll need Eligor to be level 16 in order for it to have the Tarukaja skill to carry over. You can get Eligor from the Chemdah area in Mementos.
  • Grants the  Lockdown  ability within the Velvet Room, allowing you to leave a Persona with the twins for training in attribute resistance.

Rank 4: Phoenix with Counter (P5R) or Flauros with Tarukaja (P5)

One of these two fusion missions is undertaken in both games, but the rankings have been shuffled around between P5 and Persona 5 Royal. Ultimately, there's a different mission for each game - Phoenix with Counter, in Royal, is the one most players will face.

  • To get this Persona you need to do a group guillotine fusion: Berith (Hierophant), Andras (Devil) & Eligor (Emperor), all obtainable in the first palace or Mementos. To get Tarukaja you'll need a few levels boosted via an Arcana Burst - being Devil, Flauros is boosted by the reporter (Devil, Ohya) confidant cooperation . Alternatively, you can level it a bit through fighting.
  • First, fuse Jack O'Lantern (Magician) with Hua Po (Hanged Man). The result is Yaksini.
  • Now fuse Yaksini (Empress) with Kelpie (Strength) - the result will be a shiny new Phoenix with Counter inherited from Yaksini.

Rank 5: Setanta with Rakukaja (P5R) or Ame-no-Uzume with Dodge Psy (P5)

For the fifth rank, you've got two challenges depending on the game. In vanilla Persona 5, you'll need to fuse an Ame-no-Uzume with Dodge Psy. Persona 5 Royal players instead must target a Setanta with the move Rakukaja. 

  • The Dodge Psy ability can be a bit elusive, but we found it by fusing Kin-Ki (Chariot) with Sui-Ki (Moon). Kin-Ki learns Dodge Psy at Level 27, so you just need to boost it to that level either through the Chariot confidant cooperation with Ryuji or through some combat and then select dodge psy as an inherited ability.
  • You can also fuse Okuninushi (Emperor) with Sadama (Star) for the same results.
  • Finally, Arsene (Fool) and Norn (Fortune) will also give the provided result. 
  • To get this, simply fuse Silky (Priestess) with Lamia (Empress). Done.
  • In Persona 5 Royal your reward, as well as a rank up, is  Special Treatment -  which allows you to pay to fuse personas higher than your current level.
  • In Persona 5, you'll instead unlock  Guillotine Booster , raising the number of possible fusions in Group Guillotine fusions.

You'll be seeing a lot of the guillotines of Persona fusion as part of the Strength confidant level up process.

Rank 6: Neko Shogun with Dekaja

Enjoy the simplicity while it lasts, as this is the final fusion solution that is relatively straightforward. Here's what to do:

  • You could boost to Anzu by fusing Flauros (Devil) and Sandman (Magician), Principality (Justice) and Oni (Strength) or Naga (Hermit) and Rakshasa (Strength), then getting a level boost from your rank in the Hierophant confidant cooperation with Sojiro . 
  • Your next step is to use Anzu in an advanced fusion - fuse it in a three-way with Kodama (Star) and Sudama (Hermit). Select Dekaja as your inherited ability and this rank is complete.

Rank 7: Lachesis with Tetraja

Strap in, as getting a Lachesis with Tetraja was a complicated multi-step process for us, involving a few Persona fusions on the way. Here's how we managed it...

  • Fuse or pull Clotho (Fortune) and raise it to level 28 - at this point, it learns Tetraja. 
  • Next, fuse your Clotho with Regent (Emperor) to get the Lachesis with Tetraja. If that doesn't work, try Clotho with Stone of Scone.
  • Fuse Lamia (Empress) and Sandman (Magician) to create Principality (Justice) - this Persona has Tetraja naturally.
  • Fuse Principality (Justice) with Yaksini (Empress) in order to make an Ame-no-Uzume (Lovers). Make sure you inherit Tetraja as a skill. Depending on your arcana ranks and registered Personas, you might get Kushinada instead of Ame-no-Uzume, which is OK.
  • Finally, fuse your new Ame-no-Uzume (Lovers) with Isis (Priestess) in order to get your Lachesis. Please don't forget to inherit Tetraja - that'd hurt.
  • Combine a Principality (he starts with Tetraja) with Succubus to get Lilim. Then fuse Lilim with Take-Minataka to get a Lachesis.

Rank 8: Hecatoncheires with Masukunda

  • First get a Lilim (Devil) and level her up until she learns Masukunda. 
  • Next, fuse Lilim with Anzu (Hierophant) or Daisoujou (Hierophant) - and there's what you need.
  • You can also fuse Clotho (Fortune) with Red Rider (Tower).
  • Another way to get this Persona is to fuse Clotho (Fortune) with Belphegor (Tower).
  • For Vanilla Persona 5: Unicorn (Hierophant) and Lilim (Devil) will give you what you need, with Masukunda an available skill to inherit. [Persona 5 only, not Royal, as Unicorn is Faith Arcana in Royal]
  • Royal: You can get a Masukunda Skill Card pretty easily by taking the Velvet Room twins to the Aquarium, available starting 7/26. Have Yusuke duplicate the card if you don't want to use it up permanently.
  • In Persona 5, this rank unlocks  Isolation , a new Velvet Room facility that improves Lockdown.
  • In Persona 5 Royal, this rank unlocks  Guillotine Booster , raising the number of possible fusions available in Group Guillotine.

Rank 9: Bugs with Samarecarm

Getting a Bugs with Samarecarm requires you to break out your advanced Persona Fusion tools once again, and you'll have to complete a few Mementos quests along the way, too. 

  • First of all, to unlock the capability to fuse Bugs, you need to complete the Mementos Request - The Lovesick Cyberstalking Girl, which is available from 7/10.
  • Bugs requires an advanced fusion of three persona - combine Pixie (Lovers) with Pisaca (Death) and Hariti (Empress).
  • Hariti learns Samarecarm at level 41, so boost to it there (the Empress confidant cooperation with Haru will help here) then inherit it from this fusion. One avenue to get Hariti is to fuse Principality and Neko Shogun.
  • Pisaca can be gotten in the deeper Akzeriyyuth section of Mementos.

Rank 10: Seth with High Counter

High counter is an amazing move, but getting a Seth with High Counter requires another fairly complicated multi-step fusion process - as is perhaps appropriate for the tenth and final rank of the Strength confidant cooperation. Here's what to do:

  • Gain a Skill Card from the mementos request / sidequest The Killer Who Cleans Up Trash . You'll get this request on 10/14. This skill card lets you teach a Persona high counter, and is the quickest route to this move.
  • Combine Hecatoncheir (Hanged) with Kushinada-Hime (Lovers) to get a Horus (Sun).
  • Combine Isis (Priestess), Thoth (Emperor), Anubis (Judgement) and Horus (Sun) to create Seth.
  • Use the ability card you got from the side quest to teach Seth High Counter and you're done! Have Yusuke duplicate the card first if you want.
  • Fuse Lachesis (Fortune) and Neko Shogun (Star), which makes a Pazuzu (Devil). 
  • Now get a Dakini (Empress), and level it up enough to learn High Counter. 
  • If this fusion looks like it's going to give you Ganesha instead of Horus, Make the Ganesha, and then fuse it with Queen's Necklace, again passing on High Counter. This will get you the Horus with High Counter.
  • Finish off with a four-way fusion between your newly fused Horus with High Counter and Isis (Priestess), Thoth (Emperor), and Anubis (Judgement). Voila - there's your Seth with High Counter!
  • Royal: Unlocks VIP Treatment, which gives a discount for Special Treatment.

Special Prison Events in Persona 5 Royal

In Persona 5 Royal, there's a new addition of 'Special Prision Events' that allow you to spend time with Caroline and Justine to deepen your relationship outside of the confines of the mysterious prison. This allows the pair to hang out with you at places throughout Tokyo, though only on certain dates.

Hanging out with them doesn't reward you with any boost to your confidant cooperation rank as it is of course controlled by the fusing missions, but it does get you various skill card rewards that can be used to boost and power up your Persona.

In order to do any of these, you must have naturally visited the location of each first on your own. Here are all the special prison opportunities, all of which are time-limited. All hangouts end on 12/19, unless otherwise listed.:

  • Big Bang Burger Special Prison Hangout:  available 6/6 // Rewards: Maragi & Mabufu
  • Movie Theater Special Prison Hangout:  available 6/7 // Rewards: Frei & Psy
  • Training Gym Special Prison Hangout:  available 6/15 // Rewards: Apt Pupil & Counter
  • Church Special Prison Hangout:  available 6/25 // Reward: Samarecarm
  • Aquarium Special Prison Hangout:  available 7/26 // Reward: Masakukaja & Masukunda
  • Sky Tower Special Prison Hangout:  available 7/26 // Reward: Tarukaja, Rakukaja & Sukukaja
  • Miura Beach Special Prison Hangout : available 9/2 - 9/29 // Reward: Growth 2
  • Maid Cafe Special Prison Hangout:  available 9/19 // Rewards: Tetraja, Dekunda & Dekaja
  • Destiny Land Special Prison Hangout:  available 10/1 // Reward: Tetrakarn
  • Museum Special Prison Hangout:  available 10/1 - 11/3 // Reward: Regenerate 3
  • LeBlanc Cafe Special Prison Hangout:  available 11/25 // Reward: High Counter
  • Shibuya Underground Mall Special Prison Hangout:  available 12/1 - 12/9 // Reward: Heat Riser

Finally, there is one final special event on 1/13 - but it can only take place if you've completed all other special prison events. The reward is Enduring Soul.

Getting To Babysit The Twin Wardens Is One Of The Funniest Additions To Persona 5 Royal

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Persona 5 Royal  saw the addition of a number of changes and advancements to Atlus' smash 2017 JRPG hit, Persona 5 . But arguably, one of the best and easily the funniest addition to the game was the feature to take the Twin Wardens of the Velvet Room, Caroline and Justine, out on the town and babysit them around Tokyo.

Though the Twin Wardens' interactions in Persona 5  were limited to helping Joker fuse and strengthen his persona (and giving him annoyingly difficult fusion tasks),  Royal takes that one step farther by adding one more part of Joker's rehabilitation - "special assignments."

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The twins explain to Joker that they're interested in their prisoner's life and want to see where he spends his time he's not locked up. Though they give a pretty lengthy explanation as to how this connects to rehabilitation, it honestly seems like the twins are just getting bored of spending their lives in a dingy prison with a creepy dude overseeing them. Who could blame them?

Sure, these interactions don't necessarily have a "real" purpose in the game. But the social interactions that the twins have as they explore the wonders of Tokyo are just oh, so good.

Should Joker decide to take the twins up on their offer, he'll have the opportunity to take them on some pretty hilarious outings, such as eating at Big Bang Burger, confessing at the Kanda Chapel, and experiencing the Akihabara Maid Café.

twins special assignments

Though the twins hold immense power in the Velvet Room, that authority doesn't translate too well in the real world. Normal members of society view them as adorable little children, which aggravates the twins (especially the tsundere-like Caroline) to no end.

Additionally, there's a bit of a culture barrier between the happenings in everyday Japan and the Velvet Room, which leads to some pretty ridiculous encounters; like the time Justine asks Joker to take them somewhere "where slaves attend to the needs of visitors." Joker proceeds to take them to a maid café, where the twins get into a hilarious fight with the waitress after the latter calls them "cute."

twins special assignments

The dates also allow for more insight into the twins' individual personalities. Though the original game clearly identified the dynamic between the calm Justine and the impatient Caroline,  Royal  allows players to see that in a brighter (both literally and figuratively) light. Take one outing where the twins attend confession: Justine admits she's been pushing her more boring responsibilities to Caroline, which shocks and aggravates her sister. Justine then brings up Caroline's tendency to shirk responsibilities, even bringing up the time when the latter left the Velvet Room to eat menchi katsu by herself.

Meanwhile, Joker stands outside of the confessional, listening to the two bicker.

This is all to say that while these outings are completely optional in the grand scheme of  Royal , you'd be remiss to miss out on babysitting these adorably scary twins.

Persona 5 Royal  is available now, exclusively for the PlayStation 4.

NEXT:  Persona 5 Royal: Justine And Caroline's Special Outings Guide

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Persona 5 Royal Confidant Guide – Strength, Caroline & Justine

twins special assignments

Here’s a list of the abilities and rank up information for Caroline & Justine, P5’s Strength Confidant.

When and where to find Caroline & Justine

Caroline and Justine are available in the Velvet Room anytime .

Confidants Explained

twins special assignments

The twin Waifu’s ? Unless they’re underaged. If so, then the, or the mean twins. These two allow you to fuse and create stronger Persona’s . This is super useful because you can get new and strong allies just by fusing. If you have specific types you want to gain more exp, then level up the respective Confidant . 

The twins are Nnot super important Confidants to rank up, but very helpful in gaining extra perks and bonuses if you do.

Check out our guide on the best Confidants to have and spend time with.

1 : Allows special fusions involving 3 personas.
2
3* : Allows a persona in Lockdown to gain resistance skills.
4
5* : Allows you to pay to fuse personas higher than your current level.
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8* : Allows special fusions involving 4+ personas.
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10* : Gives a discount for Special Measures.

* ability carries over to NG+ if Rank 10

105/18, Talk to Justine; Fuse Jack Frost with MabufuLv. 11 Jack Frost learns Mabufu at Lv. 12
2Ame-no-Uzume with FreiLv. 15 Makami (Frei) x Lv. 3 Mandrake = Lv. 14 Inugami (Frei)
Lv. 14 Inugami (Frei) x Lv. 9 Angel = Lv. 13 Ame-no-Uzume (Frei)
3Flauros with TarukajaLv. 9 Berith x Lv. 16 Eligor (Tarukaja) x Lv 17. Orobas = Lv. 19 Flauros (Tarukaja)
4Phoenix with CounterLv. 20 Yaksini (Counter) x Lv. 6 Kelpie = Lv. 21 Phoenix (Counter)
5Setanta with RakukajaLv. 26 Lamia (Rakukaja) x Lv. 6 Silky = Lv. 25 Setanta (Rakukaja)
6Neko Shogun with DekajaLv. 17 Orobas (Dekaja) x Lv. 16 High Pixie = Lv. 17 Sudama (Dekaja)
Lv. 11 Kodama x Lv. 17 Sudama (Dekaja) x Lv. 25 Anzu = Lv. 30 Neko Shogun (Dekaja)
7Lachesis with TetrajaLv. 29 Principality (Tetraja) x Lv 2. Pixie = Lv. 34 Anubis (Tetraja)
Lv. 34 Anubis (Tetraja) x Lv 27. Tam Lin = Lv. 35 Lachesis (Tetraja)
8Hecatoncheires with MasukundaLv. 36 Thoth (Masukunda) x Lv. 6 Kelpie = Lv. 37 Belphegor (Masukunda)
Lv. 37 Belphegor (Masukunda) x Lv. 26 Isis = Lv. 42 Hecatoncheires (Masukunda)
9Bugs with SamarecarmLv. 40 Hariti learns Samarecarm at Lv. 41
Lv. 2 Pixie x Lv. 28 Pisaca x Lv. 41 Hariti (Samarecarm) = Lv. 49 Bugs (Samarecarm)
10Seth with High CounterThe free DLC persona Kaguya Picaro comes with High Counter
Lv 25. Kaguya Picaro (High Counter) x Lv. 4 Bicorn = Lv. 26 Isis (High Counter)
Lv 26. Isis (High Counter) x Lv. 34 Anubis x Lv. 36 Thoth x Lv. 47 Horus = Lv. 51 Seth (High Counter)

Other Events

The twins are available to hangout with in the Evening . You’ll be able to receive skill cards. Here’s a list of the dates and rewards:

  • Big Bang Burger : Available from 06/06 (Maragi and Mabufu)
  • Movie Theater : Available from 06/07, requires watching a movie in Shibuya (Frei and Psi)
  • Gym : Available from 06/15 (Apt Pupil and Sharp Student)
  • Church : Available from 06/25 (Samarecarm)
  • Aquarium : Available from 07/26 (Masukukaja and Masukunda)
  • Sky Tree : Available from 07/26 (Tarukaja, Rakukaja, and Sukukaja)
  • Beach : Available from, Daytime only 09/2 to 09/29 (Growth 2)
  • Maid Cafe : Available from 09/19, requires previously eating at cafe (Tetraja, Dekunda, and Dekaja)
  • Destiny Land : Available from 10/01 (Tetrakarn)
  • Art Museum : Available from 10/01 to 11/03 (Regenerate 3)
  • Leblanc : Available from 11/25 (High Counter)
  • Underground Mall : Available from 12/01 to 12/19 (Heat Riser)
  • Your Room : Available from 01/13, requires all previous dates completed (Enduring Soul)

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This article covers information about the Strength Confidant , Caroline and Justine , including events and skills featured in Persona 5 and Persona 5 Royal .

The protagonist can initiate the Strength Confidant as early as May 18th by entering the Velvet Room and showing them a Jack Frost with Mabufu any time after the mission for Madarame's Palace starts.

The requirements for ranking the Strength Confidant are different from a standard Confidant, as they require the protagonist to have certain Personas with certain skills . The twins are available at any time the protagonist can access the Velvet Room, and furthering the Confidant does not cause time to advance. The only restriction in ranking up the Confidant is the protagonist's Level and resources in the form of available Personas or funds . With the last request requiring a level 51 Persona, and keeping pace with the enemies in the Palaces , this Confidant can be completed by Okumura's Palace at the earliest.

However, the protagonist will have to do some additional fusion instead of recruiting Shadows in Palaces or Mementos , as some will require that they inherit skills from other Personas. Furthermore, the deadline of this Confidant is December 24, more specifically before confronting the Treasure of Mementos in the Depths of Mementos Shrine. After entering the Qliphoth World and beyond, the protagonist cannot advance this Confidant as it can only be initiated with the Wardens and not Lavenza.

Completing Caroline and Justine's Confidant enables the fusion of Zaou-Gongen . Lavenza also gives the protagonist a Cell Key on 3/19, which unlocks all Velvet Room warden features once the protagonist establishes Caroline and Justine's Confidant in New Game Plus .

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Rank Ability Description
1 Group Guillotine Allows you to fuse three Personas to create powerful new ones.
3 Lockdown Allows you to leave a Persona to learn an attribute resistance.
5 Guillotine Booster Increases the possible fusions of Personas in Group Guillotine.
8 Isolation Allows you to learn stronger attribute resistance skills from Lockdown.
MAX Special Treatment Allows you to pay to create Personas of a higher level.
Rank Ability Description
1 Group Guillotine Allows you to fuse three Personas to create powerful new ones.
3 Lockdown Allows you to leave a Persona to learn an attribute resistance.
5 Special Treatment Allows you to pay to create Personas of a higher level.
8 Guillotine Booster Increases the possible fusions of Personas in Group Guillotine.
MAX VIP Treatment Reduces the amount of money needed for Special Treatment.

Requests [ ]

The presence of downloadable content may alter options presented below. Adjusting with alterations in the same Arcana of Personas will see the same benefits.

The required Personas for ranks 2-5 differ between Persona 5 and Persona 5 Royal .

Rank Request Method Level
1 with Level a recruited Jack Frost to level 12 or fuse him in the Velvet Room. 11
2 with Fuse with either or . 16
3 with Fuse with . 19
4 with Perform an to summon Flauros using , and . 25
5 with Level up twice to learn Dodge Psy, then fuse him with . 29
6 with Level to level 28 to learn Dekaja, then perform an advanced fusion to summon Neko Shogun with , and Anzu. 30
7 with Fuse and level her to level 27 to learn Tetraja, then use Clotho and to fuse Lachesis. 34
8 with Fuse with . 42
9 with Fuse and level her up to learn Samarecarm if necessary, then perform an advanced fusion to summon Bugs using , and Hariti. 49
MAX with Fuse and together to make . Level to learn High Counter and fuse her with Pazuzu to pass the High Counter skill on to . Now perform an advanced fusion with , , and Horus to fuse Seth. 51
Rank Request Method Level
1 with Level a recruited Jack Frost to level 12 or fuse him in the Velvet Room. 11
2 with Fuse with 16
3 with Perform an to summon Flauros using , and . 19
4 with Fuse with . 21
5 with Fuse with . 26
6 with Level to level 28 to learn Dekaja, then perform an advanced fusion to summon Neko Shogun with , and Anzu. 30
7 with Fuse and level her to level 28 to learn Tetraja, then use Clotho and to fuse Lachesis (if the DLC was bought, use instead). 35
8 with Fuse or recruit and level her twice to learn Masukunda, then fuse her with either or . 42
9 with Fuse and level her up to learn Samarecarm if necessary, then perform an advanced fusion to summon Bugs using , and Hariti. 49
MAX with Fuse and together to make . Level to learn High Counter and fuse her with Pazuzu to pass the High Counter skill on to . Now perform an advanced fusion with , , and Horus to fuse Seth. Alternatively, during a fusion alarm may be used in the Electric Chair to create a High Counter skill card, which can then be used on any to fulfil the request. 51

Dialogue Options [ ]

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In Royal , similar to Elizabeth , Theodore and Margaret , the protagonist can go on outings with Caroline and Justine. Doing so will not advance the Confidant, but will reward the protagonist with one or more skill cards . However, in order to take the Twins to a specific location, the protagonist must first discover it himself. An outing is available whenever Justine is outside the Velvet Room.

The events are unlocked over time on certain dates, and are all queued in order. Certain events have a deadline and cannot be accessed afterwards, continuing with the next event in the queue if it is freed up. If the protagonist has cleared enough events from the queue and has brought the Twins to Café Leblanc , Lavenza can later be invited to the protagonist's room.

Response Points (W) Points (W/O)
"Should you recognize a place that we mention, then you are to escort us there."
Trying to get out of here? 0 0
You want to go explore? 0 0
"We will now introduce the first special assignment—are you prepared?"
I am prepared. Proceed*
I wasn't expecting this... Decline
* "So, what'll it be?"
You mean ? Proceed*
I'd rather not do this now. Decline
* "Hey, Inmate—you don't really expect some kind of reward out of this, do you?"
This is just the beginning. 0 0
Sure I do. 0 0
It's the . 0 0
"Any objections, Inmate?"
I can't take the challenge. 0 0
I'm not ranked high enough. 0 0
"Perhaps the moniker implies that any diner's stomach will suffer its own Big Bang?"
I'll definitely pop. 0 0
This is gonna be easy. 0 0
Would you care to try it? 0 0
"Maybe I don't understand humanity at all... Say, Inmate: why are humans always testing and pushing their limits?"
It's because they're humans. 0 0
They do it as a sort of training. 0 0
I have no clue. 0 0
"WHAT!? Is this true!?"
Not at all. 0 0
They're a delicacy. +2 +1
,
Response Points (W) Points (W/O)
"So, what'll it be?"
You mean the ? Proceed*
I'd rather not do this now. Decline
* "What exactly were those that we wore?"
3D glasses. 0 0
Magical devices. 0 0
A Persona. 0 0
"Why do humans go so far as to spend their money just to witness fictional events?"
To escape reality. 0 0
As an intellectual exercise. 0 0
For the fun of it. 0 0
"Hey—tell us how you'd try to escape! Would you blast the door or use a spoon?"
I'm not going anywhere. 0 0
Blast that sucker open. 0 0
The spoon plot sounds good. 0 0
,
Response Points (W) Points (W/O)
"So, what'll it be?"
You mean the ? Proceed*
I'd rather not do this now. Decline
* "Hey, Inmate! What's that?"
A bench for bench presses. 0 0
It's for upper body workouts. 0 0
"Now you can train to your heart's content."
It's too heavy now. 0 0
Don't play with the equipment. 0 0
"Were we to try, it would be obliterated almost immediately."
That's not the goal. 0 0
I was holding back. 0 0
,
Response Points (W) Points (W/O)
"So, what'll it be?"
You mean the ? Proceed*
I'd rather not do this now. Decline
* "Hmm? Is that man standing there one of the gods?"
Sure is. 0 0
He's a priest. 0 0
He's a person. 0 0
"I know! It's an "iron maiden" for reforming criminals, right? Whoever goes inside and fails rehabilitation gets skewered!"
It's a confession booth. 0 0
Yep—skewered alive. 0 0
I have no idea. 0 0
"Were it not for this opportunity, we would have likely kept this matters locked away deep in our hearts."
Have you righted your wrongs? 0 0
Did you learn to be kinder to others? 0 0
What kinds of sins are you guilty of? 0 0
"By the way, why do humans pray to gods? Shouldn't they be spending that time trying to solve their problems themselves?"
Humans have their limitations. 0 0
It's a kind of support. 0 0
Sometimes it's all you can do. 0 0
Response Points (W) Points (W/O)
"So, what'll it be?"
You mean the ? Proceed*
I'd rather not do this now. Decline
* "It's my first time in this place, but it feels familiar to me, somehow..."
It's all the blue. 0 0
It's a lot like my cell. 0 0
"Settle this!"
The jellyfish are more fascinating. 0 0
The killer whale is a lot cooler. 0 0
I like both of them equally. 0 0
"Why do humans go through the trouble of collecting other creatures and putting them on public display?"
To admire nature. 0 0
To assert their dominance. 0 0
To sate their appetites. 0 0
"...What is a penguin?"
A cute, flightless bird. 0 0
An Antarctic swimmer. 0 0
,
Response Points (W) Points (W/O)
"So, what'll it be?"
You mean the ? Proceed*
I'd rather not do this now. Decline
* "There's a hole in the floor! Is it some kind of trap!?"
No, it's safe. 0 0
Try standing on it. 0 0
Maybe. 0 0
"Wha—!? Cut it out! If you wanna look so badly, then go DO IT!"
Quit bickering. 0 0
Don't mind if I do. 0 0
, ,
Response Points (W) Points (W/O)
"So, what'll it be?"
You mean ? Proceed*
I'd rather not do this now. Decline
* "We are rather interested in entering the water ourselves, if possible..."
Where are your swimsuits? 0 0
Not dressed like that. 0 0
Race you to the water. 0 0
"See? It looks like they're trying to build a shriveled Decarabia army."
Those are starfish. 0 0
That's beach volleyball. 0 0
"How barbaric... What's so fun about that?"
It's a form of stress relief. 0 0
You picture the melon as somebody. 0 0
Watermelon is very tatsty. 0 0
Response Points (W) Points (W/O)
"So, what'll it be?"
You mean the ? Proceed*
I'd rather not do this now. Decline
* "What is with this insufferable... Hey, Inmate! Do you really think you get proper rehabilitation here!?"
You get used to it. 0 0
You don't like it? 0 0
I dunnooooo! 0 0
"A-Ahh..."
Just the usual service, actually. 0 0
Let's take it down a notch. 0 0
Please don't harass the kids. 0 0
"Love★Pancake? What do they put in it? Nothing suspicious, I hope..."
Love. 0 0
Poison. 0 0
It's a surprise. 0 0
, ,
Response Points (W) Points (W/O)
"So, what'll it be?"
You mean ? Proceed*
I'd rather not do this now. Decline
* "Ah-ha! This is a brainwashing scheme, isn't it, Inmate?"
It's just a parade. 0 0
Yep. 0 0
Everybody clap your hands! 0 0
"What was that, Inmate!?"
A fantastical trip. 0 0
When you gotta go... 0 0
Whoops. 0 0
"The mouse ears or the stuffed bear... Which do you think our master would prefer?"
The mouse ears. 0 0
The stuffed bear. 0 0
Both. 0 0
Response Points (W) Points (W/O)
"So, what'll it be?"
You mean the ? Proceed*
I'd rather not do this now. Decline
* "Where is the fun in painting living humans or scenery just so that other humans can look at it?"
They see "true beauty". 0 0
It's for self-satisfaction. 0 0
It's not fun. 0 0
"Hey, Inmate—are you going to tell me that mess-of-a-sketch is actually art?"
It's art. 0 0
It's scribbles. 0 0
Art is challenging. 0 0
"Do you also waste your efforts striving towards beauty, Inmate?"
I do. 0 0
I'd rather be ugly. 0 0
I'm already beautiful. 0 0
Response Points (W) Points (W/O)
"As your wardens, we would be remiss to forgo a meeting with this person. Take us to your master immediately."
Sure. Proceed*
Not right now. Decline
* : "Hey, <protagonist>... What kind of crowd are you running with nowadays, exactly?"
I'm just a friendly guy. 0 0
A lot's happened. 0 0
This isn't my choice. 0 0
Sojiro: "What are these kids going on about?"
Just ignore them. 0 0
You don't wanna know. 0 0
"I agree... Nom... Mmm... but it seems I cannot stop myself..."
Are you fans? 0 0
Spicy, huh? 0 0
"Gah!? It's BITTER! Is this poison!?"
That's just how it tastes. 0 0
Are you actually a child? 0 0
We have milk and sugar. 0 0
"Indeed—we've been able to see some unexpected sides to humans. This has been a very fulfilling experience for us."
Happy to hear it. 0 0
Did you have fun? 0 0
You're welcome. 0 0
Response Points (W) Points (W/O)
"So, what'll it be?"
You mean the mall? Proceed*
I'd rather not do this now. Decline
* "I hear the term used for such people is 'lovey-dovey' or something like that. Is that what's going on here?"
That's not the exact definition. 0 0
They're usually in pairs. 0 0
"Could you be one of the envious?"
I am. 0 0
I'm not. 0 0
I'm lovey-dovey already. 0 0
"Why'd that man end up doing whatever the woman said? What sort of subservience is this?"
He's hypnotized. 0 0
Love is enchanting. 0 0
It's just what lovers do. 0 0
"The strength of spirit you've displayed while carrying out your rehabilitation... That deserves our recognition."
It's all thanks to you two. 0 0
Thanks. 0 0
Keep going... 0 0
"People buying one another's affection! Doesn't that sound pathetic, Inmate?"
It's an expression of gratitude. 0 0
There's no ulterior motive. 0 0
Response Points (W) Points (W/O)
"This is a storage room, yes? But where is your room?"
You're looking at it. 0 0
This isn't for storage. 0 0
"Your infiltration tools are made here? Could I possibly try my hand at it?"
No problem. 0 0
You know how? 0 0
It's pretty tough... 0 0
"It's... surprisingly similar to the one in your cell. Can you truly rest here?"
Better than the cell's bunk. 0 0
It can be a little uncomfortable. 0 0
It comes with a cat. 0 0
"Was I... talking?"
You were sleep-fighting. 0 0
That sounded intense. 0 0
I didn't hear anything. 0 0
"What is this?"
Wanna try it out? 0 0
It's a video game. 0 0
  • ↑ If instead of Horus you are offered Ganesha , make Ganesha and pass the High counter skill to them. Now Fuse the High Counter Ganesha with Queen's Necklace and pass along the High Counter, to make the intended Horus with High Counter
  • ↑ The event is only available during the day or after school.
  • ↑ If the previous event at Sky Tower has been completed late, specifically after August 30th, the Maid Café event will occur first, and the Miura Beach event can be accessed as soon as the next day.
  • ↑ The protagonist needs to have spent time at the Maid Café first for the event with Caroline & Justine to be unlocked.
  • ↑ Tokyo Destinyland cannot be visited on rainy days .
  • ↑ The Café Leblanc event with Caroline & Justine needs to be cleared in order to access this event.
  • Once the protagonist has the required Persona, the Confidant Rank will advance if the player talks to the Twins (in Royal , the player must select "Check penal status") or re-enters the Velvet Room. If the player has multiple Personas corresponding to the Rank requirements, each subsequent Rank's cutscene will trigger without player input immediately after the previous Rank's cutscene is finished.
  • After entering the Qliphoth World in Royal , the Confidant's description will change from "Twin Wardens" to "Lavenza," and the Confidant icon will become Lavenza to reflect the changes. A blue butterfly can also be seen passing by if the screen is left idle for some time.
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Caroline and Justine Guide

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Caroline & Justine are one of many Confidants in Persona 5 Royal who represents the Strength Arcana . While they are twins, they will represent the Strength Arcana together. They are the assistants of the Velvet Room during your adventure in Persona 5 Royal  and will help you manage your fusions along with methods to strengthen your Persona.

Our Caroline and Justine Guide will see how they will assist you along your journey, learning a bit more about themselves and why they seem to have amnesia. They will also set challenges out for you to accomplish to demonstrate the Trickster’s fusion potential, giving you rewards as you succeed.

Description/Overview:

Caroline & Justine are the two Velvet Room attendants who appear with Igor when you first enter the Velvet Room. They are twins with different personalities; Caroline is loud and aggressive but hides her true caring nature underneath. Justine is calm and appears to be nicer at first, but is still harsh with her treatment.

Their interactions with Joker take a twist after he goes down into the depths of Mementos and fails to defeat the Holy Grail. Igor tells Caroline & Justine to kill Joker, but they are unable to. After being unable to take down Joker, a blue butterfly flies by, prompting Caroline & Justine to ask Joker to fuse them together.

The fusion results in Lavenza being restored to her original form, as Caroline & Justine are revealed to be two halves of Lavenza. Lavenza being restored to her original form allows her to spot Igor as an imposter, who is revealed to be Yaldabaoth . Lavenza will then assist you for the remainder of the adventure.

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Caroline & Justine are both responsible for helping Joker with his Persona fusions. After going through the tutorial with Igor, you will often be returning to Caroline & Justine to fuse your Personas together to create more powerful Personas. These newly fused Personas will be strengthened depending on the Confidant they are aligned with, as well as the development of said Confidant.

Shortly after learning to fuse Personas, Caroline & Justine will give you the option to turn Personas into equipment. This allows you to fuse Personas into unique sets of equipment that you cannot buy at Iwai’s store. While some of the equipment won’t seem fantastic at the beginning, the quality will significantly increase later on.

Later in the game, Caroline & Justine will allow you to store Personas with them to learn new skills. These new skills will usually come in the form of a skill that covers a weakness, but can be other beneficial skills.

During Persona 5 Royal , you will also learn about fusion alarms, which occur after many enemies have been defeated in the Metaverse (which includes Palaces and Mementos). These alarms can potentially strengthen the offerings they provide you, and they can be repeated as long as you remain in the Metaverse.

Caroline & Justine’s Confidant revolves around developing the potential of Joker’s Trickster identity by giving him fusion challenges. They will also start developing their personalities slightly more by figuring out that something isn’t right about the task list they are using and suspecting that there is more to the challenges than initially appears.

Starting the Strength Confidant gives Joker more options when fusing Personas, such as fusing more than 2 Personas together, allowing you to fuse Personas above your level, and giving new skills when handing over your Persona for training.

In Persona 5 Royal , you can take Caroline & Justine out into Tokyo, exploring the city and having fun interactions with them, which grants you Skill Cards that can help complete the Strength Confidant if you haven’t been able to get the proper Personas fused. This can be done 12 times for different cards, which are not necessarily given in order for the Confidant challenges.

If you have managed to take Caroline & Justine out on all of their 12 outings before the third semester starts in Persona 5 Royal , you can get a meeting with Lavenza for a hang out, which can get you a special Enduring Soul Skill Card.

Should the Strength Confidant be completed, Joker will obtain the Cell Key item from Lavenza before he goes back home, which allows him to unlock all the benefits he has unlocked in the Velvet Room on a New Game Plus.

In a New Game Plus, Justine will be waiting outside the Velvet Room door in Mementos. You can talk to her to begin a secret boss battle with both Caroline & Justine. Defeating them will be a challenge, and it is best saved for the final months of the game, though it must be done before 12/24.

In Personal 5 Royal , if you were able to defeat Caroline & Justine in a New Game Plus, Lavenza will want to challenge you herself, and she will be waiting outside the Mementos door just like Justine was. This must be done before 2/4, and she is a powerful opponent.

Key Moments:

Caroline & Justine are introduced when Joker first arrives in the Velvet Room, taking the form of a jail cell. Their apprehensive behavior is apparent as they seem to take an immediate distrust of Joker, labeling him “Inmate” since he is in prison attire and locked behind a jail cell. After the talk with Igor about the upcoming threat, Caroline & Justine bid him farewell.

On April 15th, Joker will encounter Caroline while he is outside, who is standing in front of a glowing blue door. Caroline will force Joker to go inside, where Igor explains his services in regards to Personas. Joker will make his first fusion with the help of Caroline & Justine.

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Shortly after Yusuke Kitagawa is recruited into the Phantom Thieves, Caroline & Justine will beckon Joker to enter the Velvet Room again. He will be introduced to the concept of the Electric Chair, which allows him to convert Personas into items.

Later on, you will be introduced to the Lockdown option, which allows you to leave a Persona with Caroline & Justine and it will learn a skill, usually a skill that covers the Persona’s elemental weakness after a few days.

You will also learn about the Gallows, where you can sacrifice a Persona to give experience to another Persona, strengthening them.

After Joker is leaving Kaneshiro’s Palace when they have charted a path to the Treasure, Caroline & Justine will introduce the concept of Fusion Alarms, which can give Joker new fusion possibilities through fusion, the Electric Chair, Lockdown and the Gallows. However, the alarms are only temporary and will disappear after a few fusions are done.

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Caroline & Justine don’t have a large presence in the game until the Phantom Thieves attempt to steal the Holy Grail in the depths of Mementos and fail. While berating Joker for his failure, they are commanded by Igor to kill Joker. This comes as a shock to them, but they are still obligated to carry out Igor’s orders.

Despite fighting against Joker and facing no opposition, Caroline & Justine are unable to deal the finishing blow. This is when a blue butterfly begins flying past, which triggers a memory for Caroline & Justine. Realizing that something is not right and they need to come together, they ask Joker to fuse them together.

Joker fuses both Caroline & Justine together which results in Lavenza appearing. Lavenza is the true assistant of the Velvet Room, and she reveals Igor to be an imposter, saying he cannot hide in front of her eyes. This reveals Igor as Yaldabaoth, who has been masterminding the events of the game from the start.

After Joker turns down Yaldabaoth’s deal, the real Igor appears, and Lavenza advises Joker to find the rest of his friends, then bring them to Igor when he is done.

When Joker has successfully reunited the Phantom Thieves, the group is reunited with Morgana after Lavenza reveals his presence. Igor and Lavenza then explain Yaldabaoth’s plan and note that the situation isn’t hopeless as they have the power to overcome Yaldabaoth, even now. Lavenza then takes on the role of Caroline & Justine and then oversees the group’s victory over Yaldabaoth.

As Joker wins, he is still thrown in jail as he must provide evidence against Masayoshi Shido. However, at the end of his ordeal, he has one more meeting with Igor and Lavenza before being guided out by a blue butterfly, which is Lavenza’s symbol.

When saying his goodbyes in Tokyo, he will meet with Lavenza if he completes the Strength Confidant, where she will hand him the Cell Key, allowing Joker to regain the benefits of the Strength Confidant on a New Game Plus.

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Caroline & Justine will express an interest in Tokyo and ask Joker to take them out to explore Tokyo. They will mention that it isn’t mandatory, but they will reward Joker with Skill Cards if he does go on outings with them. There are 12 outings in total, and they will allow Joker to see Caroline & Justine’s knowledge of the world around them and their antics since there are things they do not understand.

Should the 3rd semester be unlocked, Lavenza’s blue butterfly will guide Joker through an image of Shujin Academy. After Joker realizes that the world isn’t what it appears to be and rescues Sumire from Dr. Maruki, Lavenza will meet Joker in the Velvet Room again. She will want to meet all the Phantom Thieves to inform them of what is going on.

When the group has been gathered, Lavenza will talk about Maruki’s control over the world and how this managed to happen. While the odds are not in their favor, Lavenza believes the Phantom Thieves can overcome Maruki, and she leaves in the form of a blue butterfly.

Should the Phantom Thieves successfully take down Dr. Maruki and restore the world, Lavenza will congratulate Joker on his victory. However, with the restoration of the world as it should be, Joker will still end up in jail since Akechi was not present to take the fall for him.

If Joker manages to take Caroline & Justine on all 12 outings before 12/24 and reaches the 3rd semester, Lavenza will ask to be taken on an outing herself.

On a New Game Plus, Caroline will appear outside the Velvet Room door in Mementos. You can talk to her to bring up the option of a battle. As this is just a battle for fun, this will not count towards anything and you cannot get a Game Over from the fight (though you can still lose).

If you have managed to defeat Caroline & Justine before the start of the 3rd semester, Lavenza will ask for a fight as well.

In Persona 5 Strikers, Lavenza will be the only person in the Velvet Room and will let Joker know what is happening in the world and provide all the regular fusion services.

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The Chariot Confidant can begin after completing Madarame’s Palace (the earliest being May 18th), where a visit to the Velvet Room and a talk with Caroline & Justine will trigger the start of the Confidant. This will begin the fusion challenges where you have to provide a Persona with a certain skill as proof of your skills. Providing the first requested Persona will start the Confidant.

Unlike other Confidants, the Strength Confidant can theoretically be completed in a single day as all you need are the Personas with the proper skills. In a regular playthrough, you would not likely be able to finish the Strength Confidant until you reach Okumura’s Palace, as you must be at least Level 51 to complete it.

At Rank 1, you will be able to fuse more than 2 Personas with Group Guillotine. You will be able to fuse 3 Personas at once, but that number will grow as the game progresses.

At Rank 3, you will unlock Lockdown, which allows you to leave a Persona with Caroline & Justine to learn an attribute resisting skill.

At Rank 5, you will unlock Special Treatment, which allows you to fuse Personas above your level as long as you can pay the money necessary. The amount required is greater the lower your level is compared to the Persona you want to fuse.

At Rank 8, you will unlock Guillotine Booster, which unlocks more fusions for the Group Guillotine fusion option.

At Rank 10/MAX, you will unlock VIP Treatment, which lowers the money needed for Special Treatment fusions. You will be able to fuse Zaou-Gongen of the Strength Arcana. You will also unlock the Cell Key item that you can receive from Lavenza in March, allowing you to gain all of these benefits on a New Game Plus.

Note that these benefits only apply to Persona 5 Royal , and are different from what you would gain in Persona 5 .

Guide to the Strength Confidant

Your challenge is to bring a Jack Frost with Mabufu.

After the first level in Mementos, you can fuse a Jack Frost with Magician Confidant Rank 2, which will give you the EXP boost necessary for Jack Frost to have Mabufu. Since the Magician Confidant increases naturally, you should not have a problem doing this shortly after receiving the challenge.

Alternatively, you can wait for Jack Frost to learn Mabufu naturally by leveling it up in combat. You can also use the Mabufu skill card from the 1st outing with Caroline & Justine on a Jack Frost.

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Your challenge is to bring an Ame no Uzume with Frei.

You can fuse a Suzaku (Sun Arcana) that naturally learns Frei. Fuse that with a Hierophant Persona around Suzaku’s level to get a Ame-no-Uzume with Frei.

Alternatively, you can also use the Frei skill card from the 2nd outing with Caroline & Justine on an Ame no Uzume.

Your challenge is to bring a Flauros with Tarukaja .

This is your first group fusion, and Eligor will naturally come with the Tarukaja skill if you didn’t overwrite it when you first obtained the Persona. As long as you have Eligor with the skill, you should be fine during the fusion.

Alternatively, you can also use the Tarukaja skill card from the 6th outing with Caroline & Justine on a Flauros, though you shouldn’t need the Skill Card if you are careful.

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Your challenge is to bring a Phoenix with Counter.

Yaksini of the Empress Arcana learns Counter naturally. Fuse Yaksini with a Temperance Arcana to get Phoenix (make sure the result is Phoenix, the Temperance Persona shouldn’t be too strong or weak).

Alternatively, you can also use the Counter skill card from the 3rd outing with Caroline & Justine on a Phoenix.

Your challenge is to bring a Setanta with Rakukaja.

Lamia of the Empress Arcana learns Rakukaja naturally. You can fuse it with Apsaras of the Priestess Arcana to get Setanta with Rakukaja.

Alternatively, you can also use the Rakukaja skill card from the 6th outing with Caroline & Justine on a Setanta.

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Your challenge is to bring a Neko Shogun with Dekaja.

A Persona that learns Dekaja naturally is Orobas of the Hierophant Arcana. Fuse Orobas with Stone of Scone (a Fortune Persona which is a Rare Enemy) will take it to the next Hierophant Persona, Anzu.

Anzu is one of the base Personas needed to fuse Neko Shogun, and you can transfer the skill to complete the challenge.

Alternatively, you can also use the Dekaja skill card from the 8th outing with Caroline & Justine on a Neko Shogun.

Your challenge is to bring a Lachesis with Tetraja.

A Persona who learns Tetraja naturally is the Principality of the Justice Arcana.

Fuse Principality to Clotho of the Fortune Arcana to get Thoth of the Emperor Arcana. Fuse Thoth with Anzu (from the previous challenge) to get Lachesis. Make sure to transfer Tetraja over in all of your fusions.

Alternatively, you can also use the Tetraja skill card from the 8th outing with Caroline & Justine on a Lachesis.

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Your challenge is to bring a Hecatoncheires with Masukunda.

A Persona that can learn Masukunda is Thoth of the Emperor Arcana. Fuse Thoth with Arahabaki of the Hermit Arcana to get Daisoujou of the Hierophant Arcana.

Fuse Daisoujou with Power of the Justice Arcana to get Hecatoncheires. Make sure the Masukunda skill is constantly transferred.

Alternatively, you can also use the Masukunda skill card from the 5th outing with Caroline & Justine on a Hecatoncheires.

Your challenge is to bring Bugs with Samarecarm.

Unicorn of the Faith Arcana will learn Samarecarm, but only at Level 42. Level the Unicorn Persona to Level 42 and learn the skill before proceeding.

Fuse Unicorn with Anzu of the Hierophant Arcana to get Hariti of the Empress Arcana, giving it the Samarecarm skill. Hariti is one of the Personas needed to fuse Bugs, which should complete the challenge.

Alternatively, you can also use the Samarecarm skill card from the 4th outing with Caroline & Justine on a Bugs.

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Your challenge is to bring a Seth with High Counter.

A Persona that learns High Counter naturally is Dakini of the Empress Arcana, who learns it at Level 52. Get Dakini to Level 52, then fuse her to a Pixie of the Lovers Arcana to get Anubis of the Judgement Arcana.

Anubis is one of the Personas needed to fuse Seth, and as long as you have properly transferred the High Counter ability, you will be alright.

Alternatively, you can also use the High Counter skill card from the 11th outing with Caroline & Justine on a Seth.

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It is recommended to bring your best characters to as high a level as possible. It is possible to achieve victory around Level 65-70, but higher levels give you more health and SP to work with, as well as better stats.

Keep in mind that you have to defeat both twins in a single turn. Caroline or Justine will simply use Recarm on the fallen twin if you haven’t finished them off together. You also have a 50 turn time limit, in which both twins will finish you off regardless of how much health they have left, their status and your health/SP/status.

Bring Personas that don’t have weaknesses (or have their weaknesses covered) and have powerful single-target skills. Have a few powerful multi-target skills as well, because you will need them to take out both twins at once.

Caroline and Justine start hitting the team with physical attacks, followed by elemental magic of every element. The elements they use will be dependent on your team and the Personas you are using, and they will target weaknesses if your team has any (which will be nearly impossible to cover in Persona 5 Royal as everyone can only evade their weaknesses at best).

Deal enough damage to the twins with your best moves, using your best attacks to weaken them. Once you get both twins’ health down to half (50% HP), the twins will use Diarahan on each other. This only happens once per battle, so you will not have to worry about it happening again. Bringing them down to 50% HP also means you are capable of beating them since their moves will not change.

Focusing on a single twin will help you narrow down their health without worrying about multi-target moves. You can then focus on the other, then bring them down together. You will need a multi-target attack to finish them off, and it doesn’t matter what you use as long as it deals damage to remove them both in the same turn.

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Lavenza’s battle is more intense than Caroline & Justine’s battle. You cannot switch out party members and there are 4 phases. You must deal enough damage in each phase to progress, or you will be immediately KO’ed after a few turns.

You want to bring characters at least Level 80 to have a good chance of winning. Making sure that your characters have the best equipment and items possible will increase your chances. Getting equipment made from the Fusion Alarms in the Velvet Room will help. Bringing the expensive revival/resuscitation items from Takemi’s Clinic will greatly help you in this fight, since you never want your party KO’ed for too long (and in Joker’s case, his health shouldn’t reach zero).

Remember that switching characters out will result in an instant game over, and you want to make sure that the team you stick with, even if it can’t cover all weaknesses, can still survive being hit with powerful attacks.

Bring your best Personas to the battle, particularly Personas who have no weaknesses and have powerful moves that deal at least “Severe” level damage.

In the 1st phase, Lavenza will inflict status ailments and elemental attacks. She will use Rage/Fire, Dizzy/Electric, Sleep/Ice and Confuse/Wind. If you debuff Lavenza or buff your team, she may temporarily deviate from the order to remove debuffs with Dekaja or use Dekunda to remove buffs from your team. She can also use Heat Riser on herself during this time if the initial cast has been removed/worn off.

This order does not take into account any weaknesses, but as you cannot switch your team members out, you need to decide on a team that will be able to withstand the first wave of attacks

To properly damage Lavenza, you need to hit her with the opposite element of the spells that she used (for example, if she used a Fire spell, you need to hit her with Ice, and so on).

In the 2nd phase, Lavenza will start using both Gun and physical skills. At this point, Lavenza is vulnerable to ailments, and you should be aiming to inflict them on her. You can use items to inflict status ailments if you don’t have the skills.

Use status ailments that allow you to knock down Lavenza, such as Dizzy, then use All-Out Attacks to damage her since her resistances will change and she resists everything.

In the 3rd phase, Lavenza will start using Nuke, Psy, Light and Dark spells. She is now vulnerable to Gun and physical attacks while resisting everything else, and that is your main source of damage.

In the 4th and final phase, you must start checking Lavenza’s resistances every turn to find out what she can’t resist and damage her with those elements/moves. She can sometimes interrupt your attacks with a physical attack of her own and will sometimes cast Concentrate with Megidolaon together. You will eventually win the long battle if you can keep your team healed, revived, and constantly attack Lavenza.

Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs):

Answer: The cut-off date is December 24th for Persona 5 and Persona 5 Royal. Even with the additional time boost given by the 3rd semester in Persona 5 Royal, you will not be able to complete the Confidant with Lavenza. However, she will still interact with you for hangouts and talk with you normally.

Answer: Caroline & Justine’s Confidant can be completed in a single day if you have all the necessary Personas, making this the easiest Confidant to complete. It can also be the hardest to complete as it doesn’t rely on any social stats, Confidant levels, or events that boost relationship values. The minimum level to complete this Confidant is Level 51, since the last fusion challenge requires Seth to be fused, who has a minimum level of 51.

Answer: Caroline & Justine’s bonus will only appear after you have started the Strength Confidant, which involves giving a Jack Frost with Mabufu to them after they make the request. The bonuses will kick in then (in case people were hoping for high-powered fusions from the start). However, you can still pull powerful demons out of the Compendium as your money carries over from previous playthroughs.

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Persona 5 Royal - Justine and Caroline Secret Boss Guide

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If a player decides to play through the game in New Game+, they will have the opportunity to fight Justine and Caroline as a secret boss. They become available to fight in the first week of May. However, it is highly recommended to only fight them when highly levelled and well equipped. Even with using strong personas such as Satan, Shiva, or Ishtar, the twin wardens can be very difficult to take down.

Unlike other fights, Justine and Caroline have Baton Pass. This can make them remarkably difficult to deal with, as the attack boost they receive after knocking a party member down can be devastating. In addition, should the twins manage to knock down the entire party, they will preform an all-out attack to instantly win the fight.

Stats/ Information

Level 99
HP 8000
SP 999
Strength 99
Magic 99
Endurance 99
Speed 99
Luck 99
Weaknesses
Resists
Items Depends on the amount of turns survived.
EXP

Boss Fight Mechanics for Persona 5 Royal

Number of Turns Survived Reward
Time Saving Ring
At least 17 turns Jewel Ring x5
At least 22 turns Soma x3
At least 27 turns Soul Food x10
Won the Fight

Boss Fight Mechanics for Persona 5

There are rewards to be had even when losing to Justine and Caroline. The rewards are better based on the number of turns the player survives. There are a number of prizes to be earned like Soul Food, Balm of Life, and similar items.

Number of Turns Survived Reward
 10 Experience Ring
20 Balm of Life x 20
30 Bead Chain x 5
40
Won the Fight

If you want to defeat them, make sure all your teammates are using their awakened persona . This way, they’ll at least have the Evade ability when dealing with their weakness. For the main character, use a persona without any affinity weaknesses or be ready to regularly switch between a number of persona to avoid attacks. The battle has several stages to go through, each stage requiring the player to deal a set amount of total damage to the twins to avoid being instantly killed. Should the player not deal 2700 total damage after five turns have passed, the twins will automatically win the fight.

Also, since they don’t have weaknesses, you’ll have to rely on critical hits. Have at least two healers in the party to prevent taking too much damage. Be sure to work both of the twins down at the same time; should one fall before the other, the remaining warden will revive the other with half health.

Behavior Pattern for Persona 5 Royal

Turns Justine Caroline
1 to 5 Triple Down Vajra Blast
6 to 10 Fire, Ice, Elec, and Wind elemental skills
11 and 15 Single target or Multiple hitting Psy, Nuke, Bless, and Curse skills
16 Triple Down Vajra Blast
17 and 18 Fire, Ice, Elec, and Wind elemental skills
19 and 20 Single target or Multiple hitting Psy, Nuke, Bless, and Curse skills
21 Supreme Magic Bullet Spatial Killing
22 Single target or Multiple hitting Fire and Ice skills
23 Single target or Multiple hitting Elec and Wind skills
24 Single target or Multiple hitting Psy and Nuke skills
25 Demonic Decree Divine Judgment
26 Randomized

The twins cycle between focusing on certain skills and using various elemental attributes depending on the turn. When you reach at least turn 16, the pattern becomes similar to the first turn and will continue to follow the same trend until turn 20. After passing turn 20, the twins will employ new skills and will continue to do so until you reach turn 25. After surpassing turn 25, the twins’ skills become randomized.

Behavior Pattern for Persona 5

Caroline will use Vajra Blasts every so often and Justine will use Triple Down with a high critical rate. If either manages to knock you down, they can cast Dekunda to remove any debuffs the player had applied. For this one, use Trumpeter and cast Debilitate on both the twins. Then, swap to a persona that can nullify physical attacks.

Here, the twins will begin using a variety of skills. Caroline opens with Maragidyne while Justine will focus on using Garudyne and Ziodyne. However, they’ll retain their Dekunda skills. At some point, one of them will use Diarahan on the another.

Here, Justine and Caroline will swap to using Frei, Psi, Kouha, and Eiha skills. They’ll use either single or multiple target attacks. Every odd numbered turn, they’ll use Kouha or Eiha. Even numbered turns, they’ll use Psi or Frei.

Here, the twins will keep using the first attacks they used in the same order. They’ll heal each other once they’ve hit half health, but this is the only time that this will happen.

Caroline and Justine are going to start doing a lot more damage from here on. They will each start cycling through attack types. Caroline cycles through physical damage, fire, thunder, psy, and holy. Justine, meanwhile, cycles through gun damage, ice, wind, nuke, and dark.

The final stage. The two wardens will use the same attacks as in the fifth stage in a random order. Try to keep their health as close together as possible to avoid a revival. If you cannot win the game by turn 51, they’ll do an all out attack and end the fight.

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The end the fight at 31 move in round 6, not 51. Please update your information. Thanx

I’m playing persona 5 royal for the fourth time already and I still can’t figure out how to unlock the fights with the twins and lavenza.. what do I need to do? I reached maximum rank with akechi, maruki and kasumi (rank 5)… what else? I don’t see Caroline at the entrance of mementos until after the deadline, when they have to reach the holy grail..

Just speak to them in Mementos. By that, I don’t mean go into the velvet room – Interact with them in front of it. That triggers a dialogue, which will eventually unlock the fight. Good luck!

I defeated the twin wardens and they gave me a victory cup accessory. It has a victory cry effect on Persona 5 Royal.

fucking thank you ive been looking for what it does

should be noted that they block divine judgement and demonic decree in royal. Also, they keep summoning ardha and end the fight with aoa when it is turn 31 in my copy of persona 5 the royal.

Thank you for sharing

I don’t know the exact rewards for rounds 30 or if the rewards for what I got are the same, but I reached 51 and the rewards were: 1 Expedite badge, 20 Balm of Life, 3 Soma, 5 Bead chains, and 20 Soul food.

I’m using Izanagi-no-Okami Picaro with debilitate and Samarecarm but I still end up getting defeated. Maybe I just need to give it Firm Stance?

So can they be knocked down by critical hits?

fuse yoshitsune, choose ali dance or firm stance, if you get ali dance then sacrifice sandalphon for angelic grace skill card as it stacks with ali dance. including hassou tobi, charge, and arms master you now have a persona that easily kills the twin wardens, and the only other necessity is having yusuke cast accuracy up so both twins always get hit by hassou tobi. if you want to make it even easier, its either lucifer or satan that tranmutate into male armor that reduces magic dmg, and females can wear the 500k yen accessory that does the same. to top it off you can substitute the second healer with heal all items from takemi’s shop.

Thanks I was wondering how to get the angelic grace skill card

So, first time going against the twins and everyone’s at max level. And I was OHKO’d at turn 11 by an All-Out Attack with everyone at more than 3/4 of their health (after taking that multi-target skill that downed everyone) and my Messiah Picaro even had Enduring Soul. I was expecting for only Joker to live through that, then maybe Futaba using Emergency Shift to swap in the reserves… But, nope, I was defeated.

it’s a timed battle you have to take off a set hit point amount before a set amount of turns end each phase (I think about 2500) or the twins will automatically hit each one of your team with their weakness and either do the same to you or score a crit

They tend to follow the same patterns in each phase! (They might stop to heal and/or debuff, but they continue the pattern afterwards.

1st phase (Turns 1-5) Melee/Gun 2nd Phase (Turns 6-10) [Fire/Ice -> Lightning/Wind] Repeat 3rd Phase (Turns 11-15) [Psychic/Nuke -> Light/Dark] Repeat 4th Phase (Turns 16-20) The whole cycle [Melee/Gun -> Fire/Ice -> Lightning/Wind -> Psychic/Nuke -> Light/Dark] 5th Phase (Turns 21-25) Same as 4th phase, but with the highest level skills Final Phase (Turns 26+) Highest levels skills, “Random order” They need to finish using each type of attack before starting over, use this to predict the back end of the cycles.

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The twins have 8,000 HP

I got the experience ring after a 17 turn loss, so maybe it’s under 20 turns?

it’s meant to say surviving “X” number of turns

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The Twins entered Thursday’s off day on a four-game skid, having lost eight of their past 10.

With just 29 games to go before the postseason, and three teams in the hunt for the American League Central title, the final month of the regular season should provide plenty of intrigue.

Here are five questions as the Twins near a pivotal September:

What contributors will the Twins get back?

When the Twins shifted Joe Ryan to the 60-day injured list on Tuesday, it signaled the end of the regular season for the starting pitcher, ineligible to return before the season ends on Sept. 29. But there are other players the Twins expect to return in the coming month, players they hope can help them both in their push for a playoff spot and in the postseason itself.

The main two are stars Carlos Correa and Byron Buxton , both of whom have been out longer than expected. Correa has yet to play in a game during the second half of this season, dealing with plantar fasciitis, and Buxton is experiencing hip inflammation.

Both have been running, though there’s no timetable for their return and neither has been sent out on a rehab assignment yet. Buxton is expected to be back sooner than Correa, who expressed hope a few days ago that he could return in the regular season.

Also out: Brooks Lee , currently on a rehab assignment at Triple-A St. Paul; Alex Kirilloff , recently pulled off of his rehab assignment because of a flare-up in his back; relievers Kody Funderburk and Justin Topa ; and starting pitcher Chris Paddack .

Will the rookie starters step up?

Injuries to Ryan and Paddack have thrust a pair of rookie pitchers, David Festa and Zebby Matthews, into the spotlight. They join a rotation that also includes Simeon Woods Richardson , himself a rookie but one who has been with the major league club for most of this season.

The Twins should get a good look at Festa, their top pitching prospect, and Matthews, a quick riser through the system who began this season at Class A Advanced Cedar Rapids, over the final month of the season.

In three starts thus far, Matthews has given up five earned runs in 15 innings. In his last start, he pitched particularly well. Festa has started nine games with mixed results thus far, but looked good on Wednesday, when he gave up just two runs in six innings and struck out seven against the Atlanta Braves . Woods Richardson, meanwhile, has been a revelation throughout the season, stepping in after Louie Varland faltered in April.

All three will pitch important innings, and the Twins will need them to step up in their quest for a playoff berth.

What will the bullpen look like?

Will Topa and Funderburk return? Could Paddack return in a bullpen role, as he did last year? And will the Twins convert Varland into a reliever for the end of the season?

Topa hasn’t pitched an inning this season because of knee tendinitis. His return has been slowed by an arm issue, but he is in the middle of ramping up his catch play. Funderburk is progressing from an oblique strain that has held him out since mid-July.

Paddack, who has been on the injured list with a forearm strain since July, does not have time to ramp back up as a starter, and it’s possible that he doesn’t have enough time to return this regular season even as a reliever. But returning out of the bullpen in the playoffs might be a possibility.

Last year, both Paddack, who missed most of the season rehabbing from Tommy John surgery, and Varland emerged as weapons out of the bullpen. Varland made his first minor league appearance out of the bullpen on Wednesday, throwing five scoreless innings, but with so many starters injured, the Twins also might want to keep him stretched out for the time being as rotation depth.

How will the division race shake out?

The Twins are currently 3½ games behind the Cleveland Guardians and 2½ games games behind the Kansas City Royals , sitting in third place in the American League Central.

It seems likely that all three teams will make the playoffs and as the teams head into the final month of the season, the division is up for grabs. The division winner is likely to have a first-round playoff bye seeing as the Houston Astros , the American League West leaders, have a worse record, making winning the division even more valuable.

Since Rocco Baldelli became the Twins’ manager in 2019, they have won the AL Central three times, including last season, when they ended an 18-game postseason losing streak by beating Toronto in the wild-card series. So, this isn’t new to the players, and the Twins control some of their fate.

They play three games with Kansas City and four against Cleveland — all on the road — and also have the easiest schedule remaining of those three teams, followed by the Guardians and then the Royals. The two teams who do not win the division are likely to nab wild-card berths. The Twins currently hold the third and final spot.

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The Twins settled in during the middle of the season, taking two of three consistently, but they’re now in another slump. It’s a tough stretch that has seen the bullpen blow up a couple of times late in games, and they’re trying to navigate out of it without some of their best players.

Will the Twins pull themselves out of this? Who will step up and emerge to help them do it?

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Twins 2, Blue Jays 0: Pablo López Dominates in Postseason Rematch

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I think Kevin Gausman is sick of the Twins. 

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Box Score Pablo López:  7 ⅔ IP, 6 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 3 K Home Runs:  None Top 3 WPA:  Pablo López (.418), José Miranda (.075), Jhoan Durán (.073) Win Probability Chart (via FanGraphs)

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Ten months ago, these two teams faced off under far more special circumstances. Both franchises looked to break their glass ceiling, pushing beyond themselves to become respectable opponents capable of deep playoff runs. On this same mound—with the same hurlers from their opening match—the Twins and Blue Jays played baseball once again, albeit with a different hue coloring their battle. 

Kevin Gausman looked like the same Kevin Gausman we’ve come to expect, a compliment considering his injury woes at the start of the season. His fastball blazed and flashed 97 at times. The splitter? You already know about it. With Samson-like hair—maybe sweatier than usual—and a powerful mound presence, he looked nearly unhittable for the game’s first four frames, only occasionally walking a batter when his command faltered. “Thank God,” he probably thought. “Those bastard Twins won’t get me again.”

Games aren’t four innings long, though, and Minnesota pounced in the fifth. José Miranda cracked a double off the right-center wall, and Carlos Santana ushered him home with a single. Some more action begat a second score when Willi Castro poked a sacrifice fly the other way. 

T hat’s all Pablo López needed. Someone replaced the effective but often inefficient strikeout machine with a modern Carlos Silva ; 13 of López’s outs came via the ground ball, as he rode his defense to one of his finest starts of the season. Maybe he took Kevin Costner’s lesson on political systems to heart . Hitter after hitter could do little more than pound the ball directly into the dirt, committing murder on Target Field’s worm population. One of the few times a batter found the skies, he was immediately gunned down at second. So it goes.

López didn't relinquish the mound until the 8th when his soft-contact ways proved too powerful; a dying dribbler put runners on 1st and 2nd, forcing Rocco Baldelli to call in Griffin Jax to squash the rebellion, which he did in three pitches. Still, Pablo's line was immaculate: 7 ⅔ innings, 0 earned runs, and 3 strikeouts. Just seven balls left the infield. 

Jhoan Durán entered in the 9th and worked a relatively boring frame to earn the save. A lead-off single was erased with—get this—a groundball double play. Like starter, like reliever. 

  • The Twins gained one game on the Royals, who lost to Houston.
  • Minnesota remains 3.5 games behind the AL Central-leading Guardians, who beat Pittsburgh tonight. 
  • Minnesota remains in the last AL Wild Card spot, 3.5 games ahead of the Red Sox, who also won tonight in 10 innings over the Detroit Tigers. 

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What’s Next? The Twins and Blue Jays play the second game of their series on Saturday, with first pitch coming at 6:10. Former Twin José Berríos will face off against Zebby Matthews. 

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Much needed win! Something to build on. LFG Twins!

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Roughly 120 pitches in the whole game from the Twins. Good stuff.

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We'd have won this game if we hadn't been Rocco'd by the nationalized Canadien healthcare causing so many roster injuries.

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Royce Lewis doesn’t look healthy. Miranda has struggled as has Willi Castro. The lineup that looked so deep a month ago is less than daunting right now. I’m glad they won tonight, but they need reinforcements soon.

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I'm a conundrum as an eternal optiimist generally speaking, and a "Debbie downer" at times when life or general situations smack me in the face at times. BTW, where does the "downer" expression even come from? I digress.

Time and frustration kept me from watching most of the games on this homestand. Frankly, I was disappointed and PO'd! This is NOT my 2024 Twins! No matter some injuries, this is NOT my Twins! 

I watched most of the game tonight between work and after work. THIS was my 2024 Twins. They had an amazing performance from their SP in Lopez. Jax and Duran only threw a couple of pitches. The offense wasn't near explosive, but they did enough. MOST IMPORTANTLY, NOBODY BLEW THE GAME with silly mistakes!

ALL TEAMS are dealing with injuries, including our Twins. But we've overcome time and again to have a great record/season until this homestand, for reasons I can't begin to understand! YES, the pen has been running out of gas recently. But the lineup suddenly produced little.

A blip? Maybe bad match ups? Putting too much pressure on everyone's shoulders? Just a FEW better pen offerings...just a FEW better AB over the past 7-10 days and this team is in 1st place in the ALC!

Lee should be back in a couple days to help. Buxton might be on a rehab in the next few days. Correa might be back in a 2 weeks. The rotation has been surprisingly solid despite throwing 3 rookies. The FO is TRYING to alter the pen with changes...Henriquez, Blewitt, Winder and Varland soon, maybe Funderburk to help. 

EVERY team has good and bad stretches. UNFORTUNATELY, the pen and the lineup went COLD just as Cleveland FINALLY began to regress to norms and have lost the opportunity to already be in 1st place.

One of the best things that can happen is your #1 STUD SP delivers something special. And your top 2 relievers finish the game with little effort. And don't laugh, but your probably best hitter comes out of a slump with a bloop hit. 

Don't misunderstand, it's only ONE WIN. But you not only end a losing streak with a win, but you also BEGIN a winning streak with one win. 

Despite injuries and a recent losing streak, this team is better than laying down and doing nothing. A couple of arms are going to TRY to help, the rotation has been SURPRISINGLY solid, and the lineup is much better than they've shown even without Buxton and Correa. They got COLD at the same time, they can also get HOT at the same time.

These guys are competitive athletes who have not only the playoffs ahead, but a chance to win the division. It's time to focus, and get "pissed off" and "angry" and use this game to finish the season STRONG!

  • Doctor Gast , Fat Calvin and Colbeh
6 minutes ago, stringer bell said: Royce Lewis doesn’t look healthy. Miranda has struggled as has Willi Castro. The lineup that looked so deep a month ago is less than daunting right now. I’m glad they won tonight, but they need reinforcements soon.

Lee says "hello". 😀

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Great win. But maybe it's time to pull names out of a hat for a game or two for the lineup. Some of those guys could make diamonds out of coal right now. They might just need to breath and have some fun for a minute.

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Lopez picked the right time of the year to get hot! He does seem to struggle in the early months and dominate later in the summer. I'll have to look at his splits as a Marlin to confirm this.

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20 minutes ago, stringer bell said: Royce Lewis doesn’t look healthy. Miranda has struggled as has Willi Castro. The lineup that looked so deep a month ago is less than daunting right now. I’m glad they won tonight, but they need reinforcements soon.

Agreed about Lewis- he didn''t look strong running on that grounder in the bottom of the 8th.

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Posted 8 hours ago

Toronto  out hits us but twins prevail and score 2 runs which is more than we needed ,   Pablo , 7 2/3rd  , captain Jax , 1/3  and Duran , 1 inning all did there jobs ... 

I was hoping captain Jax would pitch the 9th inning , but once again Rocco did his Rocco thing and brought in Duran , a 2 run lead and I was nervous  that the lead was not safe because Duran hasn't  pitched all that great this year but he managed to get 3 outs on 11 pitches , been quite awhile since he threw that few of pitches in an inning  ... 

Toronto did not sting the ball , alot of soft hit hits , wallners throw to second base to nail the runner , was a highlight...

A nice win , but hitting  still not consistent  ...

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1 hour ago, DocBauer said: I'm a conundrum as an eternal optiimist generally speaking, and a "Debbie downer" at times when life or general situations smack me in the face at times. BTW, where does the "downer" expression even come from? I digress. Time and frustration kept me from watching most of the games on this homestand. Frankly, I was disappointed and PO'd! This is NOT my 2024 Twins! No matter some injuries, this is NOT my Twins!  I watched most of the game tonight between work and after work. THIS was my 2024 Twins. They had an amazing performance from their SP in Lopez. Jax and Duran only threw a couple of pitches. The offense wasn't near explosive, but they did enough. MOST IMPORTANTLY, NOBODY BLEW THE GAME with silly mistakes! ALL TEAMS are dealing with injuries, including our Twins. But we've overcome time and again to have a great record/season until this homestand, for reasons I can't begin to understand! YES, the pen has been running out of gas recently. But the lineup suddenly produced little. A blip? Maybe bad match ups? Putting too much pressure on everyone's shoulders? Just a FEW better pen offerings...just a FEW better AB over the past 7-10 days and this team is in 1st place in the ALC! Lee should be back in a couple days to help. Buxton might be on a rehab in the next few days. Correa might be back in a 2 weeks. The rotation has been surprisingly solid despite throwing 3 rookies. The FO is TRYING to alter the pen with changes...Henriquez, Blewitt, Winder and Varland soon, maybe Funderburk to help.  EVERY team has good and bad stretches. UNFORTUNATELY, the pen and the lineup went COLD just as Cleveland FINALLY began to regress to norms and have lost the opportunity to already be in 1st place. One of the best things that can happen is your #1 STUD SP delivers something special. And your top 2 relievers finish the game with little effort. And don't laugh, but your probably best hitter comes out of a slump with a bloop hit.  Don't misunderstand, it's only ONE WIN. But you not only end a losing streak with a win, but you also BEGIN a winning streak with one win.  Despite injuries and a recent losing streak, this team is better than laying down and doing nothing. A couple of arms are going to TRY to help, the rotation has been SURPRISINGLY solid, and the lineup is much better than they've shown even without Buxton and Correa. They got COLD at the same time, they can also get HOT at the same time. These guys are competitive athletes who have not only the playoffs ahead, but a chance to win the division. It's time to focus, and get "pissed off" and "angry" and use this game to finish the season STRONG!

You lost me at the 15th paragraph 

4 minutes ago, Blyleven2011 said: Toronto  out hits us but twins prevail and score 2 runs which is more than we needed ,   Pablo , 7 2/3rd  , captain Jax , 1/3  and Duran , 1 inning all did there jobs ...  I was hoping captain Jax would pitch the 9th inning , but once again Rocco did his Rocco thing and brought in Duran , a 2 run lead and I was nervous  that the lead was not safe because Duran hasn't  pitched all that great this year but he managed to get 3 outs on 11 pitches , been quite awhile since he threw that few of pitches in an inning  ...  Toronto did not sting the ball , alot of soft hit hits , wallners throw to second base to nail the runner , was a highlight... A nice win , but hitting  still not consistent  ...    

Duran should be pitching in save situations, not the 7th inning or up by 5 runs. Rocco may have some responsibility in his erratic performances

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Posted 4 hours ago

Not to ruin anyone's weekend but, since June 12th, which is 12 starts, Pablo's like looks like:

75.2 IP, 60H, 15BB, 77K, 2.38 ERA, .218/.268/.316.

That's pretty ace like.   

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Posted 3 hours ago

Quote a "Debbie downer" at times when life or general situations smack me in the face at times. BTW, where does the "downer" expression even come from? I digress.

Screenshot from &quot;SNL&quot;

I have a hard time being down when the number one guy pitches a great game and gets into the 8th - why pull him then?  This give the BP almost a night off.  Why use two RP?  

Nice to see Miranda with a key hit.  

Should Lewis have gotten a rehab?

Will Lee make a difference?

Can Zebby be what we hoped Berrios would become (for us)?

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Posted 2 hours ago

Nice win and it's great to break the losing streak, but we have to get the bats going. We're not going to win a whole lot of games with 4 hits and only scoring 2 runs. Very good to see Pablo pitching like he's capable of too. 

  • Doctor Gast , Karbo and Blyleven2011

Luis Arraez might well win his third batting title this year, but the Twins have the better player in Pablo López. Pablo's ERA is still a bit over 4, but he's giving the quality and the innings now when the Twins need it desperately. Is there any question who starts Game One of a possible playoff series for the Twins?

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Posted 1 hour ago

Great win Lopez.  Rest of team meh!  We need to start some serious winning in September.  It's playoff push time

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Posted 16 minutes ago

Pablo is absolutely dialed in. Lewis is clearly playing with an injury. A 25 year old doesn’t hobble around the field like a 45 year old unless something is wrong. Julien’s face (and 4 letter word heard on the mic in the 8th inning) tells it all… a man with no confidence in his ability. 

Good win though and let’s get another one tonight! 

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Posted 11 minutes ago

1 hour ago, stringer bell said: Luis Arraez might well win his third batting title this year, but the Twins have the better player in Pablo López. Pablo's ERA is still a bit over 4, but he's giving the quality and the innings now when the Twins need it desperately. Is there any question who starts Game One of a possible playoff series for the Twins?

This triggered a thought... IF Arraez were to win a batting title this year, would he be the first to win three in a row all with a different team?

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Posted 1 minute ago

9 hours ago, Danchat said: Lopez picked the right time of the year to get hot! He does seem to struggle in the early months and dominate later in the summer. I'll have to look at his splits as a Marlin to confirm this.

With the Twins, he seems to go through a lot of adjustments early in the season but once he makes those adjustments he seems unstoppable. I'm not sure what his pitching patterns were in MIA. The Twins have been a big disappointment these last few series, Hope TOR will give us a well-needed reprieve & we gain some ground on CLE, but CLE is facing PIT. So we need to do well here to stay with CLE.

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14 sets of twins and one set of triplets graduate from the same high school class

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The  graduating class  at this Florida high school will make you do a double — and triple — take.

Fourteen sets of  twins  and one set of triplets gradua t ed June 5 from Cooper City High School in Cooper City, Florida, about 40 minutes outside of Miami.

The group comprised about 6% of the 543 graduates.

“It was very special as they would come across the stage; I would shake their hand and give one a diploma, and then the second one would come over to do the same thing,” Vera Perkovic, the school’s principal, tells TODAY.com.

“It kind of just symbolized they’re their own person, but also, they have been together all these years as twins,” she adds.

Cooper City High School Principal Vera Perkovic referenced the twins and triplets in the class during her speech at graduation.Courtesy Broward County Public Schools

Among the graduates are two sets of identical twins and 12 sets of fraternal twins,  NBC 6, our South Florida station, reported .

Twins Jocelyn and Gabrielle Reed.

Gabrielle and Jocelyn Reed are one such set of identical twins.

“It was a great moment. It was also just bizarre because you raise twins, and everything is two at once,” Gabrielle and Jocelyn’s father, Aaron Reed, tells TODAY.com. “So, on some levels, it was twice as exciting, but it was also twice as chaotic and overwhelming.”

The sisters have attended school together since pre-K. Come August, they will go their separate ways for college.

Gabrielle is headed to Cornell University, while Jocelyn will attend Washington University in St. Louis, Missouri.

Twins Jocelyn and Gabrielle Reed.

“I’m just really excited to go somewhere separate and be on my own,” Gabrielle says. “Everywhere I go, I’m lumped together with her and not really seen as my own person, so I’m really excited to be able to have my own experiences.”

As the editor of Cooper City High School’s yearbook, Jocelyn was always aware of the number of twins in her class, but it wasn’t until the group was in a room together that she realized just how special it is to have that many multiples.

“When you’re a twin, people treat you as a spectacle,” Jocelyn said. “So, it was crazy to see that it’s so common and that there are so many people that are also twins.”

Cooper City High School’s class of 2024 graduated June 5 at Nova Southeastern University in Fort Lauderdale, Florida.Vera Perkovic / Courtesy Broward County Public Schools

Broward County Public Schools believes the graduates have set a county record as most sets of twins to simultaneously graduate from one school.

Some of the students even created a slogan to commemorate their unique graduating class: “Twice as nice and triple the fun.”

Amanda is an editorial intern at TODAY.com and was born and raised in Miami, Florida.

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